2014 Volkswagen CC Reviews

Despite being a contradiction in terms, the four door coupe look has legs with a few manufacturers going down that path including Mercedes-Benz and Hyundai. Most notable is the arresting Benz CLS that really lit the wick for this type of car more than a decade ago.VALUENow sporting the square-set VW front and rear end styling, CC cuts a fine silhouette on the road from all angles and backs this up with a level of luxury not often seen this side of $100 grand.But the CLS spells big bucks unlike the Volkswagen CC - a similar style car but at an affordable starting price of $54,990 for the front wheel drive 2.0Tdi we drove. There's also an all wheel drive 3.6 litre V6 petrol model at ten grand more - still a bargain in the greater scheme of things.It used to be called the Passat CC but that's now been abbreviated to simply CC - just like corn chips. But there's nothing corny about the VW CC - it's the real deal and a sheer delight - to look at and to drive.FEATURESGoodies include Nappa leather upholstery, a high tech Satnav system, rear view camera, premium audio with a multi device interface, comprehensive trip computer, dual Bluetooth, auto bi-xenon headlights, paddle shift, adaptive cruise and plenty more. The test car also came with Driver Assistance Package that features lane assist, side assist with steering intervention (yes), adaptive cruise and front and rear emergency braking.We were taken aback by the level of intervention all this equipment can deliver when activated. It will actually steer you away from the sides of the road if you stray, it will stop the car if you miss a stationary object in front, it will maintain a pre-selected distance behind a leading car over  a wide variance of speeds.Where does it all end? Cars will drive themselves we reckon - and not too far into the future.TECHNOLOGYThe CC runs a 2.0-litre turbodiesel four cylinder engine we've seen in numerous other VW products, with, in this case, a six-speed (DSG) dual clutch manumatic driving the front wheels through an extended locking differential (XDL) similar to that in the Golf GTi.The transmission is well suited to the engine giving short increments between gears that are selected imperceptibly up and down. There's a sport mode if you want sharper responses.The engine is good for 125kW/350Nm and can get as good as 5.7-litres/100km thanks to extensive use of Bluemotion "eco" technology - brake energy regeneration, auto stop/start optimised aerodynamics, low rolling resistance tyres and other stuff. CC has strong performance and makes minimal noise or vibration.DRIVINGThe ride is sports/luxury, capable yet cossetting, cruisy but corner friendly. Safety is five stars with eight airbags and stability control doing its stuff. On the road it feels luxurious and sporty. You can waft along at the speed limit in a cocoon of near silence. Hit out on secondary roads and it's the same - supple and controlled.The engine delivers strong roll on response thanks in part to 350Nm being available from just 1700rpm. But we found the side assist system caused a disconnected, wandering feeling in the steering. Lucky you can turn it off.The cabin has ample seats for five, slightly compromised in rear headroom , and a large boot replete with a full size alloy spare.Park assist is handy as are the rain sensing wipers and dusk sensing headlights (bi-xenons). We really like the looks of this car - it's a class act inside and out. The interior is right up there with the heavy hitters in the luxury class. It's no sports car but is elegant and stylish from all angles.VERDICTNo need for the V6 because the turbodiesel has plenty in reserve....and the front drive system is capably controlled by that electronic diff.Volkswagen CCPrice:  from $54,990 (diesel), from $64,990 (petrol)Warranty: Three years/unlimited kmResale: 47%Service interval: 15,000km/12 monthsSafety: five starSpare: Full-sizeEngines: 2.0-litre turbodiesel, 125kW/350Nm; 3.6-litre petrol V6, 220kW/350NmTransmissions: Six-speed dual-clutch automatic, FWD (diesel) AWD  (petrol)Weight: 1526kg -1656kgThirst: 5.5 litres/100km diesel, 144g/km CO2; 9.3 litres/100km petrol, 215g/km CO2

Four-door coupes make a lot of sense in today’s world. As the baby boomers get older and their limbs get stiffer they want the convenience of a four-door sedan, but love the idea of driving a sleek, stylish two-door coupe.Mercedes-Benz began the four-door coupe trend with its CLS in the early years of the 21st century. Volkswagen’s Passat CC was the first of the affordable cars in the class. In an interesting move the German giant has decided not to call the all-new model a Passat, but simply a ‘CC’. Giving it a market niche all to itself within the extensive VW range.VALUEThe CC range consists of two models in Australia. The 125kW/350Nm 2.0-litre turbodiesel delivers 125kW/350Nm via the front wheels and is priced from $54,990 while the petrol all-wheel drive 3.6-litre V6 starts from $64,990.In a cheeky move Volkswagen is aiming the CC at the upper crust German marques, albeit at the lower specced versions of standard sedans, not the coupes. The local importer says it would just love to steal buyers from the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class.TECHNOLOGYVolkswagen CC comes with the choice of two engines – a 3.6-litre V6 FSI petrol putting out 220 kW of power and a 2.0-litre TDI common-rail turbo-diesel delivering 125 kW. Both engines produce 350 Nm of torque, the petrol between 2400 and 5300 rpm, the diesel from a low 1750 revs.This V6 FSI powertrain can accelerate the big coupe to 100 km/h from rest in just 5.6 seconds, the sort of acceleration that required a gas guzzling V8 engine only half a generation back.On test we found the VW CC using only eight to ten litres per hundred kilometres around town. Getting petrol consumption below seven litres per hundred when touring was simple with a bit of attention to economy driving.Both engines sit beside a six-speed DSG double-clutch automatic that has a semi-manual mode using either the gear lever or steering wheel-mounted shift paddles.DESIGNNew generation Volkswagen CC follows the latest VW design theme at the front with its ultra-neat nose having a slim horizontal shape in the grille and head and foglights. These blend well with the lowset bonnet.Viewed from the side the CC has sleek lines that pull the shape into a low profile admired by all who commented on the car during our recent week’s review.The large VW badge in the bootlid acts as the boot handle and also houses the rear-view camera. Thus keeping up the uncluttered look that’s such a feature of the rest of the CC.Despite the low, sleek exterior, cabin headroom has not been compromised. There’s 955 mm (949 mm with panoramic glass roof) in the front and 922 mm in the rear seats. It comes as no surprise that we found ourselves closer to the roof in the CC than in a conventional four-door sedan, but at no time did we feel cramped. Friends in the back seat for a mid-range trip made similar comments about their seating positions.Those in the rear compartment greatly appreciated being able to get in and out through normal doors, instead of having to crawl past folded front seats as is the norm in a two-door coupe. They added that you have to be aware of the lower than average door opening, particularly when getting into the CC.Soft-touch cabin surroundings and leather trimmed seats continue the feel of the exterior quality of the Volkswagen CC. We really loved the optional ambient lighting system that provides a relaxing lounge-like atmosphere at night.The boot is relatively shallow if you compare it with a four-door sedan of the same size, but that’s to be expected. Cleverly, the boot can be opened by making a kicking movement under the rear of the car making life much simpler when both hands are carrying stuff. You need to have the key in your pocket or bag so that the CC senses you’re authorised to open the bootlid in this manner.SAFETYStandard safety features include Driver Fatigue Detection; Side Assist that warns of vehicles in blind spots if you haven’t set the mirrors correctly; Lane Assist that prevents unintended wandering between lanes by intervening in steering; and City Emergency Brake function.DRIVINGOur test car was the petrol, which not only has the extra smoothness provided by a V6 engine and petrol injection, but also VW’s 4Motion all-wheel drive system. The latter provides added traction on slippery surfaces or when pulling sharply out of a side street into a small gap in heavy traffic.Just the thing for helping us make time during the school holiday period on the Gold Coast where we are plagued by dithery drivers slowing us locals up. Apologies to all you folks from down south who do the right thing...On road handling and comfort are good, with a nice compromise seeing the CC riding well on all but the roughest of sealed surfaces. Even when it did hit near-Outback roads and Australia’s notorious coarse-chip surfaces it wasn’t overly upset.Handling is neutral at normal driving speeds and remains so even when we started to push our test CC hard on our favourite stretches of hilly roads. Go really hard in a sporting manner and you can feel the heavy front engine location pushing it into marginal understeer. But a lot of that is cancelled by the all-wheel-drive system.VERDICTVolkswagen CC’s not really aimed at full-on sporty coupe drivers, but will certainly please those who look at cars as mere providers of transportation.

The VW Passat CC, the first four-door coupe in its market segment, has been replaced by a new model, this time simply called the Volkswagen CC. Volkswagen wants the CC to have its own separate identity in the automotive world.VALUEThe Volkswagen CC is priced to go up against the likes of the Audi A4, BMW 3 Series and Mercedes-Benz C-Class. The CC 125 TDI starts at $54,990, the V6 FSI $64,990. And with a long list of options, buyers are invited to add their own touches of exclusivity.The classy car only goes to add a further dimension to the ever expanding luxury sedan market. These prices do not include government or dealer delivery charges. Contact your local Volkswagen dealer for drive-away prices.Standard features are comprehensive and include driver fatigue detection, satellite navigation, rear-view camera and front comfort head restraints with added front-rear adjustment.There is more help for the driver with an assistance package that includes Side Assist and Lane Assist, which warn of vehicles in blind spots if you haven’t set the mirrors correctly, and prevents unintentional wandering between lanes by intervening in steering. There’s even Adaptive Cruise Control with Front Assist, and City Emergency Brake function.Optional features include active climate control and ventilated front seats with black Nappa leather upholstery that now incorporate a massage function. There’s room for three people in the back.TECHNOLOGYThe car comes with the choice of two engines – a 3.6-litre V6 FSI petrol putting out 220 kW of power at 6600 rpm and a 2.0-litre TDI common-rail turbo-diesel delivering 125 kW. Both engines produce 350 Nm of torque, the petrol between 2400 and 5300 rpm, the diesel from a low 1750 revs.The V6 power is put to the ground via VW’s 4Motion all-wheel drive system. Both engines are mated with a six-speed DSG double-clutch automatic with semi-manual mode using the gear lever or steering wheel-mounted shift paddles.Volkswagen’s tests show petrol power can have the CC travelling at 100 km/h from rest in a nippy 5.6 seconds after takeoff. The diesel will hit the same target in 8.6 seconds. Countering this, fuel consumption is put at 9.7 litres per 100 kilometres (petrol) and 5.7 litres/100 km (diesel) in combined city and highway driving. Emissions are 215 grams per kilometre of carbon dioxide, for the petrol, and 150 g/km, the diesel.DESIGNNaturally, the all-new CC follows the trend of the latest Volkswagen design DNA. From the side it offers sleek and uncluttered lines, starting with the redesigned bonnet and bumper which add a powerful profile. While frameless doors have been left alone in their shape, the sills connecting the wheel arches are more sculpted and bring focus to the car’s squat silhouette.The radiator grille and bonnet have been revised, with the addition of bi-xenon headlamps incorporating a cornering function and with LED daytime running lights completing the picture. Out the back there are more straight-line surfaces and horizontal lines than on the previous model, while the large VW logo acts as the boot handle and houses the rear-view camera.New LED lights are distinctive, clearly visible and fast acting. The petrol powered model is distinguishable from the diesel by the tailpipe set-up, the petrol having chrome tips and being divided on the left and right of the vehicle, the diesel outlets being twinned on the left.Despite the coupe-like sleek exterior, cabin headroom has not been compromised – 955 mm (949 mm with panoramic glass roof) in the front and 922 mm in the rear.The Volkswagen CC offers keyless access to the cabin. The boot can be opened by the holder of the fob performing a kicking movement close to the rear of the car so they can open it even when both hands are carrying stuff. It brings a whole new meaning to ‘boot scoot’.Soft touch cabin surroundings and leather upholstered front seats confirm the continuation of the exterior quality of the car, while an optional ambient lighting system is designed to provide a relaxing lounge-like atmosphere at night.DRIVINGWith the watery winter Tassie sun fighting to burn off the low lying morning mist and remnants of overnight ice on the roads, members of the Australian motoring media set off on a drive from Hobart up the east coast of the island. It was four degrees Celsius outside; inside the cosy yet spacious cabin that fact was hardly noticeable.The petrol powered sedan served up fuel consumption of a tad over 10 litres per 100 kilometres in spite of some spirited driving, while the diesel weighed in with around six litres per 100 kilometres under similar conditions.In both cases the cars came up with what can only be described as a pleasant drive thanks to extremely good manners in not the easiest of conditions – damp surfaces on narrow, twisty country roads shared at times with slow moving trucks and agricultural equipment, plus the downtown drag of other road users wending their way, seemingly with much reluctance, to work.

Volkswagen is aiming to move its Passat-based four door coupe upmarket, but is keeping prices down.The reborn former Passat CC (Comfort Coupe) has been renamed – now just CC to its friends – repositioned and reloaded with ammunition to take value potshots at German and Swedish rivals.The CC is the flagship for the local line-up, and needs to amplify its premium stance to get more attention in a marketplace where nearly every brand has become a clawing profile climber. MODELS AND PRICESLike the previous version, it’s a two-model range, and prices for both have been frozen, with the entry level still sitting at $54,990 for the 125kW/350Nm 2.0-litre turbodiesel that delivers 125kW of power and 350Nm of torque to the front wheels with a six-speed dual-clutch gearbox.For $64,990 the 3.6-litre petrol V6 version uses same DSG transmission to deliver 220kW and 350Nm to all four wheels. Both engines get brake energy recovery, while the diesel’s ‘Bluemotion’ tech (Blue = green at VW) includes stop-start system and a coasting function that decouples the engine when it’s not under load.The diesel is the bowser hero at 5.5 litres/100km compared to the V6’s 9.3L. Neither are performance heroes, and aren’t intended to be, despite having quite workable Sport modes for the suspension and transmission, and handy steering wheel paddles to spur things along in short bursts.DESIGNThe CC wears the new family grille, with triple horizontal bars lending sleight-of-eye to make the incoming car look wider than the exiting model, despite little real difference in size. The light cluster design has been sharpened, with new LEDs blazing the tail and a cleaner look at both ends. In the cabin you get an updated look around the centre stack, and the two-seater rear pew has grown an extra spot in the middle – albeit not one anybody will be fighting to get to.RIVALSShopping the volume-selling diesel CC against the similar-sized Germans, there are bigger price tags but arguably extra selling points -- variously on dynamics, finish, fit-out and luxury. But you shouldn’t overlook the Volvo S60 D5 at just $500 more than the CC, and with a similar premium positioning and high quality in every aspect.EQUIPMENTThe standard equipment list has been beefed up with about $5000 worth of extras, led by a large touchscreen colour satnav and infotainment system, rear view camera, keyless access, an ‘easy open’ function that lets you open the boot by kicking a foot under the bumper. That lot comes on top of all the usual kit – leather upholstery, rain-sensing wipers, dual-zone aircon and the like -- plus a list of options to add extra tricks.SAFETYIt hasn’t been tested here yet, but expect the CC to get a full five stars. Features include six airbags, anti-skid brakes with electronic assistants and stability control. It also gets some high-tech helpers, including active bi-xenon headlights and a fatigue avoidance system that keeps an eye on steering patterns and alerts you if it detects signs of tiredness.There’s also an optional package that includes adaptive cruise control and a combined blind-spot/lane drift warning system – which could save your life, but will possibly annoy you to death in the process (more on that later).DRIVINGIt’s a business class cabin: upmarket fit-out, plenty of gadgets and comfortable seats – at least in the front. The rear row squishes three but has plenty of room for two. You’ll probably be able to shackle a child in the centre spot, but long trips will have them calling welfare services.Extra sound deadening means you can barely hear the engines, and even then only when you tramp the pedal, although it’s still an effort. The generally whisper-quiet cabin means that when wind rush and rough-chip bitumen noise comes it stands out more, but overall unless you plan to spend a long time on roads outside the city it won’t be noticeable.The steering is accurate but very light, which suits the target urban buyer. However, activate the blind-spot/lane drift safety system, and the wheel becomes possessed by a twitchy little demon, tugging against your hands if it disagrees with your direction. It became confused a couple of times in country cornering, leading to a disconcerting battle of wills. Still not sure the humans won, either. Both engines are competent, and while there’s more sparkle from the petrol V6, its not enough to justify the price difference against the very capable diesel unless you particularly want the V6’s AWD. VW expects to do about 60 per cent of their sales on the diesel, and with the price positioning they’re certainly encouraging that.VERDICTThe extra equipment and styling brush-up pitch the CC into the gap between top-level Japanese cars and the lower end of luxury brands. It doesn’t have the dynamic chops of the 3-Series, the cosseting of Merc’s C-Class or the refined cabin of the A4, but it offers enough in every area to give a premium combination and still leave some change in your wallet.

"You can't say no, just say CC's" - a corny line from an even-cornier chip ad, but that's where Volkswagen is heading with the four-door coupe version of its new Passat, just don't mention the P word.More than 320,000 globally have handed over hard-earned to get a taste of the most svelte member of the Passat family - previously that was not a difficult accolade to achieve as the rest of the range didn't exactly push the edge of the styling and design envelope.VALUEThe new CC (it stands for Comfort Coupe) range will remain a two-model line-up, as per the outgoing car - the 125TDI front-drive model (which is 60 per cent of the CC sales here) will kick off proceedings at an unchanged starting price of $54,990, despite equipment upgrades including the driver fatigue detection system the reversing camera and standard satnav.The features list has dual zone climate control (with rear vents), Bluetooth phone and audio link, the aforementioned touchscreen satellite navigation and 8-speaker infotainment system with auxiliary input, 18in alloy wheels, auto-dipping mirrors inside and out, folding and heated external mirrors, a leather-wrapped steering wheel with audio, phone and trip computer controls.The facelifted CC also has automatic active bi-xenon headlights, rain-sensing wipers, power-adjustable front sport seats, tinted rear windows and insulated glass.The CC V6 asks for an unchanged $64,990 and for that price hike gets a different 18in wheel and the all-wheel drive system, although the V6 AWD drivetrain doesn't get the coasting function or start-stop.TECHNOLOGYThe new Volkswagen CC will again the choice of a 125kW/350Nm two-litre turbodiesel, or the 220kW/350Nm V6 petrol engine in the AWD model; both have six-speed DSG transmissions only. The diesel gets what VW calls the BlueMotion fuel-saver systems, including start-stop, a coasting de-coupling function on the gearbox and a brake energy battery recharge function as standard equipment, while the V6 petrol model gets only the brake energy recovery system.The diesel's outputs are unchanged at 125 kW of power and 350 Nm of torque, enough to push the TDI model to 100km/h in 8.6 seconds but lay claim to 5.7l/100km. The V6 petrol model's AWD system runs at 90 per cent front in normal driving, using the rear wheels when required by means of a number of sensors, not just a change in axle speed, says VW. The V6 produces 220kW and 350Nm, sprints to 100km/h in 5.6 seconds and boasts 9.7l/100km. Among the changes on the facelifted model is more soundproofing materials in the front, side and rear of the new CC, as well as along the floorpan and in the wheelarches. The dashboard has also been backed by more sound insulation and the windscreen now has a film of sound insulation added.For those with armloads of shopping is the auto-boot system that responds to a deliberate kick beneath the bumper (provided you have the key) to automatically open the bootlid. The CC also now has what VW calls the "Extended Electronic Differential Lock" that brakes the inside front wheel to counteract wheelspin and understeer.DESIGNThe facelift for the CC follows the Passat, with a sharper, longer nose and a new chrome radiator grille and bonnet design; the new standard bi-xenon headlights (with cornering lights and LED running lights) have lost the rounded shape along the bottom of the out-going car's main beam.The CC has rear LED tail lights and still has frameless doors, the coupe roofline and the steeply swept rear window. The cabin now seats five (previously the rear bench was a two-seater) and it's snug if you want to carry five adults.Headroom is not abundant in the rear (due to the swoopy roofline) and rear vision is restricted by a narrow rear window aperture, so the standard rear camera and parking sensors are vital.SAFETYThe cabin is equipped with dual front, front and rear side and full-length curtain airbags, fatigue warning detection and tyre pressure monitoring as standard. There's also anti-lock brakes, stability and traction control and the aforementioned Extended Electronic Differential Lock.Front occupants have height adjustable lap-sash seat belts with pre-tensioners (also on the outer rear seatbelts) and belt force limiters. The safety features list includes the driver fatigue detection system (which monitors time and behaviour behind the wheel).The CC is also available with Lane Assist (that operates above 65km/h) and Side Assist blindspot warning, part of the optional $3300 Driver Assistance Package which teams with the adaptive cruise control and emergency braking system.DRIVINGAt first glance the new CC looks more muscular and purposeful than the old car. The cabin is snug but well laid-out and once underway it's immediately apparent how quiet it is. The outgoing Passat CC was not a noisy car but the work done to insulate the cabin further has been to good effect.The ride is Germanically firm in normal mode, while the comfort setting does take the edge off the bumps a little more. Sport mode tightens things up nicely for the bends and the CC points through corners with poise, although there's some remoteness to the electric steering, the price paid for having it invaded for safety's sake.The optional lane assist system can be a little spooky as it possesses the steering, but it is effective and certainly a worthwhile safety feature, particularly when teamed with the other systems on the CC. But it's no boy racer - refinement is key and both models have it - but maybe this time we'll get an R ....The V6 model has quicker point-to-point potential as you'd expect but the diesel is no slouch - the all-wheel drive model feels more confident on slimy surfaces and can punch out of corners harder, but the intelligent front-drive system does plenty to instil confidence when pushing the diesel.The optional active climate control seats have a massage function which when combined with heaters made it difficult to get back out into single-digit temperatures. The 532 litre boot is not deep but does stretch well back toward the cabin, meaning there's a deceptive amount of cargo space that can be extended by spiltfold rear seats.While currency plays a part in keeping the price steady and upping equipment lists, the new CC bridges the gap between sedan and coupe in good order, without the loftier asking price of some others in this growing segment.

A premium new look won't necessarily attract a premium price when the Volkswagen CC four-door coupe goes on sale in June or July this year.  VW previewed its repositioned CC in France this week and Australian spokeswoman Nina Willoughby says the standard equipment will improve but the price wont reflect the equipment upgrades as the Passat-based coupe is moved upmarket to chase sales from the Mercedes-Benz C-Class Coupe and BMW 3 Series. Final specification is still being determined for Australia but the car will be better value when it arrives, she says. VALUE The CC range will continue with two models in Australia - the 125kW/350Nm 2.0-litre turbodiesel which delivers 125kW/350Nm via the front wheels and the all-wheel drive 3.6-litre V6.The current vehicles are priced at $54,990 and $64,990 respectively. Carsguide expects VW to keep any price rises to a minimum - around $1500-$2000 - to maximise the value proposition over its prestige rivals. Using the C-Class coupe as a benchmark, technology such as adaptive cruise control is likely to be included in the standard car.Satellite navigation and the adaptive headlight system - which dims sections of the high beam to avoid dazzling oncoming drivers or the vehicle in front - could also be on the default list. TECHNOLOGY There's a lot of bling on the European options list for VW Australia to choose from. The adaptive chassis control is already available, but the combined side and lane warning departure systems is a first for VW and one that makes sense in this car.The system uses radars to monitor approaching vehicles and cameras to detect where the lane markings are and alerts the driver if there is a car in the rear three-quarters "blind spot" or if they try to change lanes without indicating. STYLING The horizontal grille and cut-off tops on the headlamps differentiate the new CC from the existing Passat CC range. Designers had no choice with the grille - its part of the VW corporate look - but embraced the three-bar grille to give the impression the new car is wider and lower than it actually is.Dimensions are virtually unchanged from the existing model, with a 1mm trim in length the only difference. New LED taillights continue the flat and clean look at the rear. The result is a typically tidy VW style that lets the coupe silhouette define the car.A three-seat rear pew is expected to be standard in Australia,though the scalloped side seats makes the centre pew suitable only for young children or anorexic adults. Buyers who want to keep the existing two-seat rear layout will find it is a no-cost option. SAFETYSix airbags and a solid body structure makes the existing Passat CC a five-star car. The CC continues this approach and will be one of the safest VWs on the road. A fatigue detection system is standard and works by monitoring the steering inputs from the driver and alerting them via visual and audio cues if it determines the driver is tired, based on repeated minor corrections of the wheel. DRIVING The CC drives like a Passat CC, which is no bad thing. The improved sound deadening works on both models and there is only a muted grow from the base turbodiesel under heavy acceleration. the range-topping V6 snarls harder but is still subdued enough to give owners a sense of power without becoming intrusive.The steering is light, but direct and the lack of feedback can be forgiven on the basis that this doesn't pretend to be a sports car. It feels more upmarket than the Passat, but doesn't have the tactile feedback to challenge a BMW or Mercedes-Benz. Then again, it doesn't cost as much either. VERDICTThe move away from the Passat nameplate makes the CC hard to pin down. It's not a true prestige car but it certainly is better than most vehicles on sale at the predicted price point.And that will give the VW a unique slot in the market - it had the looks and style to be a premium model, but it will come down to pricing and specification of the Australian vehicles to determine whether it can find a real niche in the market. And we won't know those details until closer to the car's June/July launch date.