Toyota Prado vs Peugeot 5008

What's the difference?

Toyota has at last brought the Prado kicking and screaming into the 21st century.

Real improvements in design, tech, comfort and capability have changed what was consistently regarded as a solid off-road tourer and family conveyance into something much better.

This new-generation Prado is the best iteration of this vehicle: roomy and refined, well equipped, nice to drive, and now with a welcome increase in towing capacity, but it is underpowered for something so bulky.

Ultimately it feels like a missed opportunity – Toyota had a chance to rattle the cage with a real game-changer of a vehicle, but the Prado just isn’t that at all and, while it's good, it's not great as we’d all hoped.

The answer is, I think, two-fold - price and badge. Peugeot Australia has a job on its hands to turn things around as 2020 was a tough year and 2021 is shaping up to be almost as hard. There aren't any significant changes to the 5008 to make it suddenly stand out from the crowd because it already did. So the badge's cachet isn't matching the premium pricing.

Peugeot's SUVs are very popular in Europe but barely make a dent here. Because there isn't a bait-and-switch cheaper model to lure buyers off the street, it's a harder sell. Peugeot's glory days of the late 1990s and the late 1970s before mean the people who have fond memories of the badge are older and probably don't have any attachment at all to the French lion. Perhaps the re-energised 2008 will start that conversation, except it's not cheap either.

Having said all that, it's hard to see why folks with over fifty grand to spend on a seven-seater - and there are plenty of those - aren't paying more attention to the 5008. It's a striking presence, is practical but isn't overbearingly large or even slightly clumsy. It may not have AWD but hardly anyone ever uses that. It'll handle the city and the motorway and, as I discovered, biblical rain all in its stride. Like its 3008 sibling, it's a mystery there aren't more out there.

The new Prado is 4990mm long (with a 2850mm wheelbase), 1980mm wide, 1935mm high, and it has a kerb weight of 2520kg. The wheel tracks are 1664mm at the front, and 1668mm at the rear.

As mentioned the Prado now sits on the same platform as the 300 Series so this is not an insubstantial vehicle.

It now has a distinctive chunky, almost straight up and down, old-school look whereas before the Prado carried softer lines.

The heritage square grille is big as is everything else onboard: with bulky wing mirrors, side steps, wheel arches and tyres adding to the vehicle’s wide, squat stance. 

The Prado has rectangular LED headlights in Australia, whereas other markets have the option of the round retro-style lights on their 250 Series.

Overall, the Prado looks even better in the metal than it does in the photos that Toyota fans have been salivating over for so long.

Even with its styling changes and a new fresh all-encompassing look and feel the cabin of the Prado remains comfortably familiar. If you’ve ever spent any length of time in a LandCruiser then you know what I’m talking about.

Build quality is tremendous, fit and finish impressive, the seats are suitably supportive and the Prado’s cabin is an easy space in which to quickly become comfortable.

The 5008 was always the slightly awkward big brother to the 3008. That's not to say it was (or is) ugly, but the bigger box fitted to the back is far less racy than the 3008's fast back. 

There's not much change at that end, so the cool claw lights carry the can for style. 

In profile, again, it's a little awkward (compared to the 3008) but some nice work with various materials and shapes help to reduce its bulk.

The front is where the facelift action has happened. I was never completely convinced by the front end of the 5008 but the reworking of the lights to look less like they were squeezed out of a tube of toothpaste is a marked improvement. 

The updated lights work beautifully with the new frameless grille. The fang-style daytime running lights, that debuted on the gorgeous 508, look fantastic here on the 5008. It's a superb job.

Inside is largely unchanged, which is to say it's still brilliant. It's really one of the more inventive interiors in any car, anywhere and is a joy to sit in. 

The seats look brilliant, even more so in the diesel with their fine stitching and racy shapes. The wacky 'i-Cockpit' driving position works much better in more upright cars like SUVs and is present and correct while the new 10.0-inch screen also looks good. 

Even if you're not interested in buying one of these, if you're passing a Peugeot showroom, get in and have a look, feel the materials and wonder why more interiors aren't this cool.

The new Prado has some nice touches over and above the standard features fit-out of lower grades, such as a colour head-up display, digital rear-view mirror, heated steering wheel, power-adjustable steering column, heating and ventilation (front seats), eight-way power-adjustable driver seat and four-way power-adjustable for the front passenger, and genuine leather-accented upholstery throughout.

It also has a deep refrigerated centre console, 14-speaker JBL sound system and a sunroof.

The 12.3-inch multimedia touchscreen dominates the layout upfront and is easy enough to operate, though I did have strife getting Apple CarPlay to work off my phone but the cause was my dodgy old charge cord. 

Speaking of charges, there are six USB-C ports (but no USB-A) in the cabin, and a wireless charger in front of the auto shifter.

There is a 12V DC socket (upfront) and a 220V/100W socket in the rear cargo area.

The second row is a 60:40 split-fold configuration and passengers there have access to aircon controls and directional vents as well as charge points.

Cargo space in the rear is listed as 954L with all seats in use, and 1895L if the second row is folded down. But the rear cargo area is compromised in its packability because of the raised floor (it’s lifted to house the 48-volt V-Active system’s battery) and also the bulky wheel-arch housings. This cargo area is a narrow, shallow space.

The load limit for the raised floor is labelled as 60kg.

There are cupholders at the rear (atop the wheel arch housings), which are leftovers from the three-row layout.

The rear cargo area has a 220V/100W socket, four tie-down points, and a sliding cover to conceal anything that’s left in the back.

There is some very shallow underfloor storage space under the rubber matting.

The rear space can be accessed from outside the vehicle through a window that is operated via a button on the rear door, or the whole rear door can be opened (it swings out from left to right) and locked in place.

The Prado has an underslung full-size spare.

Legroom is good in the middle row, with plenty of knee space as well as a that long flat roof stopping you from giving yourself a haircut. 

Each of the front seats has a fold down airline-style tray table, which kids go absolutely wild for.

The third row is really an occasional use only proposition, but it does the job and is reasonably easy to access. The middle row also slides forward (60/40 split) to allow a bit more space for the third row, which is nice.

The 5008 has a trick up its sleeve - removable third-row seats. If you fold the middle row down and remove the back row, you have a massive 2150 litres (VDA) of cargo volume. 

If you just fold the third row away you still have a formidable 2042 litres. Whip the back row out again but leave the centre row in place and you have a 1060-litre boot, reattach them and it's a still impressive 952 litres. So, it's a massive boot.

The 5008 is rated to tow 1350kg (petrol) or 1800kg (diesel) with a braked trailer, or 600kg (petrol) and 750kg (diesel) without brakes.

Peugeot's local arm is pitching the 5008 at an interesting point. While nowhere near the largest of seven-seaters, it is also not the cheapest, that honour going to Peugeot's former technical partner for SUVs, Mitsubishi. 

There is now just one specification level (although it isn't really), the GT and you can have it in petrol form for (deep breath) $51,990, or diesel form (keep drawing that long breath) $59,990. That's a lot of cash.

But as I say, the spec is not the same between the two. And there is a lot of stuff.

The petrol GT opens with 18-inch wheels, a 12.3-inch digital dashboard (upgraded, apparently), a new 10.0-inch touchscreen (ditto), front and rear parking sensors, around-view cameras, leather and Alcantara seats, keyless entry and start, auto parking, adaptive cruise control, powered tailgate, rear window blinds, auto LED headlights, auto wipers and a space-saver spare.

The more expensive diesel picks up the diesel engine (obviously), a banging Focal-branded 10-speaker stereo, acoustic laminated front side windows and 19-inch alloys. 

The diesel GT's front seats are also upgraded, with extra adjustability, a massage function, heating, memory function and electrical operation of just about everything on them.

Both versions have the new 10.0-inch multimedia touchscreen. The older screen was slow and really needed a good stab to work, which is a bit of a problem when so many functions are packed into the system. 

The new one is better, but still a touch laggy. Weirdly, the climate control shortcuts permanently frame the screen, so the extra real estate goes on those controls.

The diesel GT's seats are available as an option on the petrol as part of a $3590 option pack. The pack also adds the Nappa leather, which itself is a separate option for $2590 on that upper-spec model. Neither pack is cheap (but the Nappa leather is lovely) and the massage seats are more than a novelty.

Other option costs are $1990 for a sunroof and $2590 for Nappa leather (diesel only).

Just one paint colour, 'Sunset Copper', is free. The rest are extra. For $690 you can choose 'Celebes Blue', 'Nera Black', 'Artense Grey', or 'Platinum Grey.' 'Ultimate Red' and 'Pearl White' cost $1050.

The 250 Series Prado has 2.8-litre four-cylinder diesel engine – producing 150kW and 500Nm – with Toyota’s 48-volt V-Active technology. 

V-Active technology comprises a motor generator, 48-Volt battery and DC/DC converter which enables a stop/start system and this set-up is “designed to offer … improvements in driveability, performance, fuel efficiency and noise, vibration and harshness (NVH) compared with the standard 2.8-litre turbo-diesel engine”, Toyota reckons.

The 48-volt V-Active technology essentially amounts to a stop-start system aimed at reducing fuel consumption, but it doesn’t add anything in terms of performance.

What’s more, it takes up space in the engine bay and the system’s 48V lithium battery weighs 7.6kg, so the total weight of the system – between 30-35kg, as estimated by Toyota – has to be taken into account when you’re aiming to load within the Prado’s 580kg payload.

It has an eight-speed automatic transmission and a full-time dual-range four-wheel-drive system. 

This engine and auto arrangement is generally impressive – smooth, with plenty of torque across a wide rev range. It does, however, feel underpowered and it needs extra encouragement (heavy right boot) to get off the mark – but it otherwise yields a controlled and refined driving experience, especially on the open road at highway speeds.

As the names of the cars suggest, there is a petrol and diesel engine. Both drive the front wheels only through automatic transmissions.

The petrol is a 1.6-litre four-cylinder turbo, with 121kW at 6000rpm and 240Nm from 1400rpm. The petrol scores a six-speed automatic and will cover the 0-100km/h run in 10.5 seconds.

For torque monsters, the diesel is the go, with 131kW at 3750rpm and 400Nm from 2000rpm. This engine scores two more gears for a total of eight and will run from 0-100km/h in 10.2 seconds. 

So neither of them are drag racers, which is to be expected when you've got a fair chunk of weight to pull (1473kg for the petrol, 1575kg for the diesel).

The Toyota LandCruiser Prado has an official fuel consumption of 7.6L/100km (on a combined cycle).

I recorded 10.4L/100km on this test. I did a lot of high- and low-range 4WDing and the Prado was never working hard.

The Prado has a 110L fuel tank so, going by my on-test fuel-consumption figure, you could reasonably expect a driving range of about 1057km from a full tank. 

It has a 17.4-litre AdBlue tank.

Peugeot says the combined cycle figure for the petrol is 7.0L/100km and 5.0L/100km for the diesel. The petrol figure seems sort of likely, the diesel, not so sure.

I ran the lighter 3008 for six months with the same engine (but with two fewer gears, granted) and it averaged closer to 8.0L/100km. The last time I had the 5008 I got 9.3L/100km.

As I drove these cars on the launch event (mostly highway running), the dash-indicated 7.5L/100km figure I saw is not a reliable indicator of real-world consumption. 

Both tanks hold 56 litres, so based on the official figures, you'll cover around 800km in the petrol and over 1000km in the diesel. Bank on a day-to-day range about 150km lower than that.

Previous generations of Prado were never atrocious on road, but there was always substantial body roll, it was a bit floaty and it was one of those four-wheel drive wagons that, on sealed surfaces, tended to feel like a couch on wheels.

That’s no longer the case because this new-generation Prado is well controlled, well composed in all scenarios and it really is nice to drive – even when you move from bitumen onto a dirt track and you can still keep up a fair bit of speed.

On the new chassis the Prado feels settled, nicely controlled and that well-weighted steering has an even balance to it, especially when things become a little bit lumpy and bumpy here and there. 

And most of that ol’ Prado body roll that was evident in previous iterations has been ironed out.

Past generations of Prados weren't ordinary in the off-road department, not by a long shot. And this new Prado has improved on the proven formula of those previous generations: from its mechanical foundations, plenty of low-down torque through to its selectable driving modes (rock, sand, mud), the Prado is well equipped to tackle pretty much any off-road circumstance you can conjure with your over-active imagination. 

Now, with the added bonus of new and improved suspension and a sway bar disconnect system, those factors have bolstered the vehicle skill-set that's already there.

There is plenty of driver visibility through the cabin to the front, to the sides and to the rear. So you can see everything. But as well as that, you also have the valuable addition of new driver-assist technology, including the multi terrain monitor camera system to make sure you can scrutinise any sight lines that you may not be able to see naturally from the driver's. 

The steering feels sharp, it's well weighted and balanced and with a longer wheelbase on this chassis the Prado’s body always feels controlled and composed on fast dirt roads or through low-speed four-wheel-driving situations. 

The eight-speed automatic transmission is very clever and works well in conjunction with the aforementioned selectable driving modes, which tweak engine output, transmission response and throttle control. 

The Altitude is the most off-road-focused of the line-up and to that end it has a centre diff lock, rear diff lock and swaybar disconnect system – and all those elements add up to a nice bonus for a vehicle that has always been a decent off-road tourer. 

So it has plenty going for it, but it’s not all good news though. 

Toyota reckons it's V-Active system is aimed at fuel consumption but it also helps to produce a little more torque in off-road situations during which you may need extra torque. 

But I've seen no real discernible difference in terms of performance, at those low speeds coming from that unit. It may be so seamless that you don't notice it at all, but I've only noticed that the Prado has performed as it should with that engine and that transmission on board. 

I can't credit any improvements in performance to that 48 volt unit that's now on board. 

The Prado is compromised by ground clearance and off-road angles that are more suited to a city-friendly vehicle than a purpose-built off-road vehicle. 

Having said that, ground clearance is fairly standard for a large four-wheel-drive wagon – it sits at a listed 221mm off the dirt, which is satisfactory – and it has a wading depth of about 700mm. 

The off-road angles of approach (32 degrees) and departure (17 degrees) are also standard for this class and size of vehicle, although especially in this Altitude, the departure angle has been somewhat compromised because of the underslung tyre and the addition of optional accessories (towing kit etc) on this text vehicle.

The Prado’s ramp-over angle is not listed but this new-generation Prado, with its longer 300 Series-size wheelbase, likely offers about 21 degrees.

The underbody does at times feel quite low and vulnerable to hitting the ground, even though underbody protection is quite substantial.

It's Toyo Tires Open Country A/T (all-terrain) tyres (265/70R18 116H) are perfectly fine for most off-road scenarios, but you can always do more and go further with a set of better, more aggressive all-terrain tyres, especially some light-truck construction rubber. 

It's bulky sidesteps, while handy for getting in and out of the vehicle itself, can also be considered vulnerable to damage – and are prone to rubbing against rocks through tight rutted climbs, that sort of thing.

But those aspects aren't deal-breakers, and a lot of the Prado’s shortcomings – ground clearance, off-road angles, tyres – can be easily resolved with a visit to Australia's aftermarket industry.

And despite those minor niggles I did have a lot of fun driving this Prado.

For those looking to use their Prado as a towing platform, the good news is it can now legally tow the segment standard maximum of 3500kg (braked) (up from the previous generation's 3000kg) and it has a pre-wired and integrated towbar.

Payload is listed as 580kg, GVM is 3100kg, and GCM is 6600kg.

Once you're comfortable with the i-Cockpit, which features a high dashboard and a tiny, squared-off steering wheel, you'll feel like you're driving a much smaller car. 

I have theorised over the years that the light steering coupled with the small steering wheel makes it feel more dynamic than it is, but I think that's wrong - it's genuinely well set-up and is a car in which you can have some fun.

I was only able to drive the 1.6-litre petrol with six-speed auto on launch and that was on a horrifically wet day during Sydney's recent deluge. 

The M5 motorway was covered in standing water and the spray from the big rigs made driving conditions rather more difficult than usual. 

The 5008 sailed through it all (pun intended). That engine is hardly the last word in power and torque, but it does the job and the auto is well-calibrated to the numbers. 

The big Michelin tyres bite the tarmac pretty well and while you always feel the weight of a seven-seater SUV, it drives much more like a raised wagon than a doughy SUV. 

Fewer of its rivals are doughy these days, but there's a little bit of spark in the 5008, matching the promise of its looks. 

It's not quick, and it's not a hot SUV, but every time I get in this or its smaller 3008 sibling I ask myself why more people don't buy them.

It's irritating that the diesel costs so much more if you want that extra in-gear performance and another two gears.

The 5008 lands with six airbags, ABS, various stability, traction and braking systems, speed limit sign recognition, driver attention detection, distance warning, lane keep assist, lane departure warning, road edge detection, auto high beam, reversing camera and around-view cameras.

The diesel picks up lane positioning assist while none of them have reverse cross-traffic alert. Equally annoying is the fact that the curtain airbags don't reach to the back row.

The forward AEB includes low light cyclist and pedestrian detection between 5.0km/h and 140km/h, which is impressive. 

There are three ISOFIX and three top-tether mounts in the middle row and two top-tether restraints in the removable third row.

The 5008 scored a maximum five ANCAP stars in 2017.

The Prado is covered by Toyota’s five year/unlimited km warranty.

Servicing is scheduled for every six months or 10,000km and, under Toyota’s capped-price servicing, each of the first 10 services costs $390.

The 48-volt battery set-up is covered by a five year/unlimited km warranty. 

Peugeot's five year/unlimited kilometre warranty is now pretty standard but always welcome. You also five years of roadside assist and five years/100,000km of fixed price servicing.

Interestingly, the service prices aren't much different between the petrol and diesel, with the former costing $2803 over five years ($560 per year on average) and $2841 for the latter ($568.20 per year on average). 

You have to visit your Peugeot dealer once every 12 months/20,000km, which isn't too bad. Some turbo-engined cars in this segment demand more visits or won't cover as many kilometres between services.